Klayley Shipper

@Izzyswan02 
            And they also try to justify it by saying Hope was just came out of nowhere accidentally ofc her parents would love her more than anything but that doesn't mean her parents cannot have their love life and soulmates cuzzz they didn't planned it so it makes sense for Hayley falling for Elijah and Klaus going after Cami 

@Izzyswan02 
            The upsetting part is people in their fics treats Hope like sideline character when she's the main part of her parents character development even the writers in the originals treated her more like a side character and gave more importance to the ships 

@nancy32899 ew that's not a fic at that point but pure garbage

@hannahcaitlyn 
            Sure

@Izzyswan02 
            Yeah that's the most frustrating part that how they fucked up with her mental health just to portray her antongist/villain they could've found another way if they really wanted to show her as a villain honestly she was actually the best love interest of Klaus and better choice after Hayley 

@Izzyswan02 
            You summarized this so perfectly. The distinction you made between the superficial perspective of physical assault versus the absolute erasure of mental and emotional agency is brilliant. With Caroline, Klaus disrespected her boundaries, but with Camille, he completely stripped her of her free will.
            That is exactly why I can never convince myself to believe they were ever even a 'thing' or a real couple. Their entire dynamic literally started with compulsion. When a relationship begins with a literal psychological violation, how are we as an audience supposed to just forget that and buy into it as a pure love story?
            Because the foundation was built on forced compliance, it honestly felt like she was still just his compelled therapist deep down. She never truly reacted to or acted on the horror of what he did to her mind. A normal person with actual agency would have felt violated, angry, and distrustful, but the writers made her completely passive just to keep her in that supportive box for Klaus.
            Like you said, if she didn't choose the option he wanted, he just turned around, used his power, and removed her choice entirely under the guise of 'what's best for her.' It's so frustrating how the show tried to pass off that total removal of consent as some grand romance. You can't have true love when one person has a psychological remote control over the other from day one.
            As for Aurora being portrayed as a villain she used as a tool to pass the idea of Klamille being true love if you look at the clear picture she didn't even choose to be a bad person by her choice she was just a normal girl who was traumatized and wanted love just like Klaus she even told Hope in The Legacies how much she loved her father and wanted to be with him but she wasn't enough then straightly told Hope that she carries best parts or her father and I honestly felt bad for her because she was misunderstood even more than Klaus .

@hannahcaitlyn same I hate how the writters treated Aurora, they completely dismissed her trauma (she already had survivor guilt when she met the Mikaelsons but at that time mental trauma was viewed as being possesed) but then they had to make Elijah force her to destroy the only good thing that happen in her life which had a huge butterfly effect of turning Klaus into the monster he was in TVD but also ruined Rebekah's life as Klaus became even more protective and selective of who was worthy enough for her baby sister's heart, it even impacted his relationship with his siblings as he became so wary of getting hurt that he eracted walls so thick that only Hayley was able to see through it and Hope the reason he put them down.

@nancy32899 yeah true

@Izzyswan02 
            These people won’t accept it because they know that if they do, they’ll end up losing arguments against their own ship.

@nancy32899 seriously the nerve of these delusional stan, so because they have surface level understanding of the show they expect everyone to accept all the show's s nonsense cuz the writters made it Canon.
            Well they better start to accept it's never gonna happen since unlike them we're not dumb and have a brain to help us see when/where and how the writters fucked up the show big time